TokenGazer《一问到底》| 第50期:研究员 VS ETC

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ETC:

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ETC 核心开发  Jake Lang

 TokenGazer 研究员  Tiger


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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

At which block number or date is the Atlantis hard fork scheduled to occur? What improvements will you make?


Jake Lang | ETC:

The Atlantis hard fork has entered its testing phase. The block height of Atlantis is now scheduled at #8,772,000 (around September 17).

The Atlantis hard fork introduces many EIPs from Ethereum's Byzantium hard fork, for the purpose of improving compatibility between chains. One example is EIPs 196 and 197, which implement precompiled contracts for operations on the alt_bn128 curve. This allows the use of ZK-SNARKs in ETC contracts.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

Atlantis硬分叉的区块高度和时间大概是什么时候?主要的改进有哪些?


Jake Lang | ETC:

Atlantis硬分叉目前已经在测试阶段,根据目前的测试情况,硬分叉计划发生在8,772,000的区块高度,大致时间为9月17日。

亚特兰蒂斯升级引入了许多来自Ethereum的拜占庭分叉EIP,目的是提高两条链之间的兼容性。比如EIP 196和197,它们可以在Alt_bn128曲线上执行预编译的合约,这将支持在ETC的智能合约中使用ZK-SNARKs。



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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

What’s your community’s attitude toward the Atlantis hard fork? Is there a large portion of community members who oppose the hard fork?


Jake Lang | ETC:

Atlantis hard fork is approved by the whole community, and everyone is excited to the improvements. There are some opinions on the hard fork height last month, but now we are all reached in an agreement.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

社区成员对这个硬分叉的态度是怎样的?有没有出现势均力敌的两派?


Jake Lang | ETC:

Altantis硬分叉得到了社区成员的一致认同,大家对本次升级带来的各项提升感到兴奋。社区曾经就升级时间有一些分歧,不过现在已经达成共识。


03


TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

Will you switch to the PoS consensus mechanism like Ethereum?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC will stick to PoW. ETC community has the consensus that PoW is the safest algorithm.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

以太坊后期会转成PoS,ETC有这方面的考虑吗?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC将会坚持PoW。ETC社区的共识认为PoW是目前为止最安全可靠的算法。



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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

Who makes the core decisions in ETC? Could you give us an example of ETC community governance?


Jake Lang | ETC:

Decisions are made by the community. we follow an ECIP process in the community. The technical parts are reviewed by the core dev team.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

ETC的核心决策由谁来控制?社区治理有没有具体案例?


Jake Lang | ETC:

核心决策由社区共同控制,我们的每个决定将遵循社区的ECIP流程。技术部分将有核心团队审核。


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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

Ethereum does not set a cap on its token supply, but ETC does. So what’s your reason for this? Will you change it in the future? 


Jake Lang | ETC:

Fixed supply of assets allows networks like Bitcoin to maintain actual and sustainable value based on the market's demand. 

The decision to depart from the inflationary policy is mainly for the long-term interests of investors, developers, business operators and most importantly, the network.

Platform token is a critical part of blockchain system that aligns economic incentives of key stakeholders, users, developers, investors, and miners. Its monetization makes everything tick and helps to bootstrap the ecosystem. However, it has been shown time and again in economic history that reliable long-term monetization is impossible without two key characteristics; utility and scarcity.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

以太坊的代币目前并没有上限,ETC的代币有一个上限,这样做的考虑是什么?未来还会有变化吗?


Jake Lang | ETC:

固定的代币上限使像BTC这样的网络在市场需求上保持真实可持续的价值。

ETC改变货币政策至固定上限,是充分考虑到相关人士的长期价值,包括投资者、开发者、商务相关人士,最重要的是网络。

平台的代币对于区块链系统是一个非常重要的部分,激励着用户、开发者、投资者及矿工。它的货币化将帮助生态发展。

根据经济的历史有两点非常重要,实用性和稀缺性。(这里他想表达通缩的货币政策是更好的。)



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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

What is the current situation of the tokens drained by hackers in the DAO attack incident? Were all the tokens sold for profit?


Jake Lang | ETC:

As far as I know, the major part of it is not sold.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

之前DAO事件,黑客盗走的代币现在是什么状态?有没有全部交易进行获益?


Jake Lang | ETC:

据我所知大部分的代币没有被交易。


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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

Will the ETC community still advocate immutability if similar incidents happen again in the future?


Jake Lang | ETC:

Yes. ETC will keep immutability, it's a community consensus.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

未来如果发生类似情况,ETC社区还是会主张不可篡改吗?


Jake Lang | ETC:

是的,ETC将保持不可篡改性,这是ETC社区的共识。



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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

Are Ethereum and ETC smart contracts still compatible with each other? Will you change this situation in the future?


Jake Lang | ETC:

The smart contract is compatible on both chains and it won't change.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

目前以太坊和ETC的智能合约还能继续兼容吗?未来有没有计划发生变化?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETH和ETC上的智能合约将继续兼容,并且在未来不会发生变化。


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TokenGazer Researcher Tiger:

What are ETC’s main advantages? And what will you do to attract more developers to your ecosystem?


Jake Lang | ETC:

The ETC ecosystem is growing quickly. The hard fork will accelerate this growth and lead to a dramatic increase in DApps. This is becuase it will make ETC compatible with Ethereum, so DApps can operate on ETC for lower gas cost.


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TokenGazer 研究员 Tiger:

ETC的主要优势有哪些?如何吸引更多的开发者到生态中来?


Jake Lang | ETC:

目前ETC的生态在高速成长。这次硬分叉将会加速它的成长并带来引人注目的DApp增加。在硬分叉升级后,ETC的系统将能更好地与ETH兼容,同时由于DApp在ETC上运行的Gas费用更低,这些都会导致更多的DApp在ETC上开发。



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TokenGazer Community:



Jake Lang | ETC:

Actually it's not really in my domain. Maybe sidechain will help, our core dev is still discussing on it.


TokenGazer Community:



Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC Labs is helping lots of projects on ETC, it's the main accelerator to the DAPPs. Till now it's on it cohort 2. Cohort 1 has just finished with 12 projects. Hundreds of more projects are applying for cohort 2 now.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 无限空间:

在ETH 2.0向PoS发展的时候,关于解决TPS问题,ETC有什么计划?


Jake Lang | ETC:

事实上这不是我涉及的领域(主要负责虚拟机开发),我觉得侧链可能有所帮助,我们的相关核心开发者还在研究讨论中。


TokenGazer 社区成员 无限空间:

ETC在DApp、链上资产发行以及社区合作方面有什么计划?

Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC Labs帮助了很多ETC上的项目。在DApp方面可以说是ETC的主要加速期。Labs刚刚结束了第一轮的项目孵化,完成了12个项目。第二轮已经开启,目前有上百个项目申请参加。


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TokenGazer Community:

What’s ETC’s advantage over other public chains in the IoT field?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC and IoT is proposed by the previous ETCdev team, and it's not my area. The previous plan is to use side chain for IoT, since ETC has VM and it's safe. But now some devs are trying to improve it, let's just wait and see.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 未来已来:

ETC在物联网领域,相比于其他公链有哪些优势?


Jake Lang | ETC:

“ETC与物联网相结合”是原ETCDev团队提出的,其实不在我的范围之内。当时提出的方案是利用侧链技术,鉴于ETC的安全性等优势。现在有新的开发者接手了相关开发,并尝试提升方案,让我们等待新的项目方案吧。



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TokenGazer Community:

Compared with Ethereum, what opportunities can ETC bring to entrepreneurs?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETH and ETC have the similar functions for startups. With Atlantis hard fork and the following upgrades this year, the two platform will stay in a same technical stage. But as we know, DApps can operate on ETC for lower gas cost, so it's more helpful for startups. Also ETC Labs is really important for attracting startups, new projects gets more help in all areas.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 王辉WANGHUI:

跟以太坊相比,ETC给我们创业者带来的机会是什么?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETH和ETC在功能上很相似。在Atlantis及今年的后续升级后,ETH和ETC对于开发者来说,是来到同一个技术层面。由于ETC上的Gas费用少很多,更多的新项目愿意在ETC上运作。同时ETC Labs对于吸引初创者非常重要,它向优秀的项目方提供了各个方面的帮助(资金、技术、见面会、招商等等)。


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TokenGazer Community:

ETC does not have many stars or forks or commits on Github (except for the projects incubated by ETC Labs). Is this a normal situation?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC have several dev teams, all teams even most projects have their own repos. We update the codes in different repos. After a project or update is well finished we merged it to our main repo. That's why the github repo doesn't have lots of updates. Actually lots of devs like me join ETC now, and the community is active.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 棉球方块

ETC的Github上的Fork\Star数量都不是很多,活跃度似乎也不高(除了Etclabs孵化的项目外)。ETC的冷清是正常情况吗?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC有很多开发团队,每个团队甚至大部分项目都有独立的代码库。我们一般在相对应的代码库更新内容,再全部完成后再同步到ETC的代码库。这就是为什么看上去ETC的代码更新数量显得并不多。事实上越来越多像我这样的开发者正在加入ETC,整个社区其实是很活跃的。



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TokenGazer Community:

Why does ETC roadmap end in 2018?


Jake Lang | ETC:

The roadmap you talking about must be ETCDev's road map. Our team is called ETC Labs Core which is the core dev team now. We've already published the roadmap this January.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 青藤:

ETC路线图怎么到2018年就结束了?


Jake Lang | ETC:

你所指的路线图一定是前ETCDev团队的路线图。我现在所在的ETC Labs Core团队是ETC目前最核心的开发团队,我们在今年1月就已经公布了新的路线图。详见:

https://mp.weixin.qq.com/s/1PdFA-qgiN_VZ327sr7Wrw


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TokenGazer Community:

It was reported earlier that ETC laid off part of the development team. Is it because there was a shortage of funds in the ETC community?


Jake Lang | ETC:

ETC Dev had some funding problem last year. It's just a company behavior not the community. ETC Labs soon made a new team and hired those devs who left ETC Dev. Now we have no funding issues and the team expanded a lot.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 Saoirse:

此前有消息称,ETC裁撤了部分开发团队,请问ETC社区是否出现了资金短缺的情况?


Jake Lang | ETC:

有资金问题的是ETCDev团队,这是一个公司行为,并不代表社区。ETC Labs在之后马上成立了新的开发团队并把那些离开的开发者吸纳进来。我们目前没有任何资金问题,团队也扩大了很多。



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TokenGazer Community:

What’s SHA3’s current status on the Astor Testnet? Will it be used on the mainnet to replace the current ethash algorithm?


Jake Lang | ETC:

There's some voice in the community that supporting SHA3. We are still discussing on it. If the commuity has the consensus on it, it will soon be shown on ECIP process.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 韩峰:

ETC SHA3哈希算法目前测试网Astor的开发进度,未来是否有计划会应用在主网上替代现在的Ethash算法?


Jake Lang | ETC:

社区的确有相关的声音,但我们仍在讨论阶段。一旦达成初步共识,就会马上反应在ECIP流程上,但目前暂时没有。


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TokenGazer Community:

As ETH will be upgraded to ETH 2.0, a large amount of hashing power will transfer to ETC. What is Core Dev Team’s plan to take advantage of these hashing power to improve the robustness of the ETC network?


Jake Lang | ETC:

The community discussed about the shift of hashrate before. Most people think after ETH change to PoS, ETC will receive a lot of hashrate from it. Actually it's not how the dev team using the increase, the increase it self helps to improve the strengh of network. Improve it is our goal, wat we done like upgrade the protocals helps also.


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TokenGazer 社区成员 工程师老柴:

随着ETH逐步迁移至ETH2.0,在不远的将来,会有大量的显卡算力被释放。请问Core Dev Team有何计划利用好这部分算力,以提升ETC网络的健壮性。


Jake Lang | ETC:

社区一直有讨论算力的迁移。大部分人都认为在ETH转向PoS后,ETC可以获得很多算力支持。事实上我们不应该说如何利用这些算力去使网络健壮,越多的算力支持这件事本身就是帮助提升网络的健壮的。这是我们的目标,也是我们做类似Atlantis这种升级的初衷。



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